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Religious Smackdown!! (Not Really)

On the church's blog, Pastor Bob Jones challenged the atheists.

Published: Aug 6, 2008

Interstates are an unlikely forum for theological debate. Some might even point to the modern commute, with its chaotic swirl of traffic and exhaust, as proof that God, if he ever existed, has absconded, leaving us alone with our dirty world.

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And yet, on I-95 (as on other highways across the country), God himself has taken to the road. There, a billboard offers a chance to "Experience God" on a Web site.

But God may need to up his game. Because several weeks ago, his competitor bought a billboard, too. Just a short distance away, another sign reads: "Don't believe in God? You are not alone."

The "Experience God" billboard was put up by the Light Houses of Oxford Valley, a church with relaxed worship procedures — wear what you want, feel free to eat and drink. The other billboard was crafted by the Greater Philadelphia Coalition of Reason, or PhillyCoR, an alliance of groups whose members "do not believe in supernatural powers," according to their phone message.

The churchgoers were the first to notice the proximity of the billboards. In a post on the church's blog, Pastor Bob Jones challenged the atheists: "I am not asking you to believe, but simply open your eyes and minds and see if there is something more."

Martha Knox, coordinator of PhillyCoR, read the blog and saw a chance to advance her organization's mission. "We want those who disagree with us to understand that we share the same secular values," she said. Because she believes that "charity is a secular, human value, not a religious one," she called the church to organize a joint day of service.

And so, on Saturday, I joined a crowd of Christians and atheists, 20-odd of each and all wearing T-shirts to mark their allegiance, at the Philabundance warehouse in North Philadelphia.

Things began quietly. The groups mingled in the parking lot, waiting for someone to take charge. When I was discovered as a neutral party, I was assigned to take a group photo. Atheists and Christians clustered around a picnic table, patterned together awkwardly like boys and girls in an elementary class picture. It was hard to tell them apart: Both sides consisted of nice families with children and polite young adults. Even their T-shirts looked the same, white with subtle blue logos across the chest. Only the details gave a few away: a "Spirit in the Sky" ringtone on one side; Knox's edgily short hair on the other.

Once inside the warehouse, everyone got down to packing personal and medical supplies for shelters as a radio played hip-hop. No one talked theology. I asked Knox if things might get feisty, but she thought people were being intentionally welcoming. "No one wants to be evangelized to," she said. Instead, some teenagers stood off to the side, making small talk about where they came from. "What's right in your heart is right in your heart," said the mother of some atheist girls.

Pastor Heidi Butterworth agreed. "People are in different places in life," she said later. "Hey, you guys are other people in the community. We love you and God loves you. It's simple."

Eventually, everyone would tuck into their cars and drive off, with no future plans made and no one converted. But before they did, there was one brief adventure: The radio turned vulgar. "Shake, shake, my ass, ass," a woman's voice sang, to the distaste of both groups. One of the atheists walked over the stereo and looked at it, as if trying to determine how to change the station. "Show, show, my thong, thong," it blared. After a few moments, the man shrugged and started dancing. This too, he decided, he could tolerate.

(editorial@citypaper.net)

Comments

Thanks you so much for your coverage of our event. I believe all of us had a great time working together.
by Brian Barrish on August 7th 2008 5:14 PM

A line has been drawn in the sand. Go to our blog "Debunking Atheists" to see the new pictures called Evolution Exposed!

http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2008/08/evolution-exposed.html
by Dan on August 8th 2008 3:59 AM

Shame on you Dan for that shameless ad of your(?) web site.
Its polarising message stands in stark contrast to the purpose behind the meeting which was reported on.
PhillyCoR is reaching out their hands and you spit on them.

Thanks Boyce Upholt for reporting.
by Michael Mabuse on August 8th 2008 9:14 AM

This website actually is relevant: www.phillycor.org More info about PhillyCoR, including links to other media coverage.
by Marf on August 8th 2008 4:19 PM

The PhillyCOR is an arrogant group of "thinkers" and the church is just as bad with their "interpretations". Both groups should be dropped into remote locations without necessities and "rethink" what life is really about.
by GOD on August 9th 2008 10:30 AM

Please Pass this to all of the states, in the United States and abroad. You must have room enough for the Children of our Lord born in these decades. We are losing our own. Stop the violence.


I would like to go to the very root of this problem. The mayor if he can, should ask for all the adult parents to participate in a seminar by groups, in the convention center. The first group are parent's born in the fifties, next group born in the sixties, and of course the last group who apparently are the main target group, those born in the seventies. It should be done in that order for a very good reason that will be explained. (It's not that hard to fiqure) any way, there should be no younger children present. This meeting is for those who can make it, without children or find your own baby sitter. (The teen at home that should be watching them ).the convention center would be a great place to bring, (now don't get me wrong) the parent's and grandparent's (because they leave grandparents out of everything and the grandparents are usually the one raising the child/children)of all that have had a love one killed by violence. No other children are to attend unless the elder needs assistance. This helps one another face each other on the same level of grief. It will help the parent to go back home and teach the other teens to get off the street's. Turn the event into a memorial, bring the dead love ones picture with you. Let people express ideal's and thoughts. Can you imagine how many people have been shot down in the street's since the beginning of the nineties. They will also tell their other living relatives, to stop the violence, no retaliating someones death. Yes, we have to see how many elder's will participate, then you will know how many other adult's don't care....Ps. Back in the days they had a place called the PAL (Police Athletic Leaque) it was a teaching and recreational place for children to go, learn, play, something to keep them from being bored. I say open some of these old buildings and turn them into recreational facilities and we will have half the innocent children off the street.

One Dead in Double Shooting
by shirleofbflo on September 22nd 2008 11:05 PM


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